Do you Believe in God? Religion vs. Common Sense?

[gohanson]

I am a Christian.

I believe the problem is that to many people take the bible literally. Rather the bible should be considered more of a moral code and a guide [EDIT Rather than] a literal set of laws set in stone. The bible itself was written by man, and translated by man many times over. So in addition to it all the bible has translation errors. Not to mention certain people adding or removing parts of the bible in order to force their beliefs on others. As well as there are bound to be parts of the bible that have gone missing over time.

I also do not understand why some people claim God and science have to contradict each other. If God made man from dirt or if God made man from an ape that came from the dirt. The bottom line would be God made man. Again this goes back to interpretation of the bible. Should you take it literally or should you take it metaphorically. Just because you believe in God should not mean you cannot accept science and vice versa.

Unfortunately organized religion (all religions not just Christian) has been used and abused by so many people to commit such horrible antireligious acts. The crusades, abusing of children, hoarding wealth while the people are poor, countless human sacrifices to appease the gods, etc. etc. etc. are a real drawback to anyone that wants to participate in religion. People should remember that Priests, ministers, bishops, even the Pope is still a human.

I am a Christian, and I do believe in a God. I don’t believe every single detail that the bible says. Nor do I believe everything a single Church or denomination says. Faith should be a learning and dynamic experience not static.


This is just me anyway. Many would consider my religious views contradictory but almost everythng is.


Edit.

Sorry I meant Rather than. I must have been trying to type to fast.

[mark]

I find them rather refreshing.

[Neal]

[Neal]

For some reason I can't even post on most Internet Explorers. Click on reply and it just takes me to the main page.

[gohanson]

[Neal]

Looks to me you are not a Christian, but a theist.

For example, just as you can have faith in the Bible, you can have faith in the Qur'an. Every argument you can use for the Bible, you can use for the Qur'an. For example, interpreting the stories of the Bible and the stories of the Qur'an.

This is kind of like saying "It doesn't matter whether Jesus really did die for our sins, it's the interpretation of the story that matters, not whether it is true or not." Sun of a gun.

[Jazmin]

I must admit, I never thought of reading a section where the 'bible' is mention. Neither did I like conversation that tries to proof it wrong. But I must ask this Neal, just which bad side of you that others did not like(back then)? You sure make a lot of interesting point when posting your words on the forum.

Any section of the forum, not just one. I will admit this, I really thought you are insane or something, but I guess you're not and I was wrong about you.

You really know how to make things very interesting to read. This is probably or might be the better book that I have read so far(I consider this section of the forum a book since it's already have 15 pages) and I'm glad I decide to take a peak.

Quote by quote with answers, fascinating!

I can't wait to see others' argument, they make the combination much more intriguing for one to read. Love it!



--Jazmin

[Aeriana]

[mark]

Opers can kill people for personal reasons? If I'd known that I would have done '/akill *@* heh' quite some time ago.

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[Neal]

A user once joined #spiderslair. He said "Is it true Webnet have things that are allowed to do, but can make exceptions to people it doesn't like?"

What do you think the user got in response / happened to the user?

(This is not a true story, but a hypothetical.).

[Super_Fly]

I do believe in God, many people here know I'm a muslim and can be like wth? isn't muslims God called Allah? Well to those, God is Allah and Allah is God it's just God is an English word and Allah is one of 99's Arabic names of Him.

Now, I've been living outside my country for 3 years and during these 3 years I never saw so many people with psychiatric diseases. While in my country most of people are healthy and I guess most of psychiatrists in my country are "almost" unemployed.

Well, I'm not saying that since people there believe in Allah then He is protecting them from such diseases. My point here is that believing in God can solve many questions for curious people and can make their lives easier because of faith. For example: We, muslims, think that anything that happened, happen or will happen that has no logic explanation (in other words, that's beyond the capacity of the human mind) is a God's fact and we must/should not dispute it.

In my own opinion, I think that it doesn't matter which religion you choose/practice but the faith you've in God's existance, the rest can be you own choice, to be a good man/woman, respect people, etc. Or be bad and so on.

My family in law are catholics, but I can say that they're one of the best persons I've never met, of course, they had some objections when they knew I'm a muslim because of the bad reputation we've won thanks to Ossama Ben Laden and his fellows, but guess what?, people can be equal in rights but not in their personalities, education or behaviors.

Peace.

-SF

[Neal]

[Super_Fly]

I'm not blaming Ossama Ben Laden, I said the bad reputation is because of him since he started a war against the USA, and well, what I believe about that is another thing, you know, Ossama was and still a CIA agent. The example you've put doesn't make a sense in this case, and as I said before, people are not the same no matter what's their religion, they could be good or bad. The thread is about if you believe in God or not so all what you said is out of topic.

Apart from that, if Ossama isn't what most of the world and I believe, then he's not a muslim, there's nothing mentioned in The Qur'an about killing innocent people and at the same time, The Prophet Mohamed says: "If you see a bad act you may fix it with your hands, if you cannot, you may use your tongue (tongue means talking or discussing), if you cannot then use your heart and that's the weakest of faith".

Ossama interpreted that wrong, or at least he did, since he's hurting innocent people by his acts.

Anyway, that should be discussed in another thread, I gave my point of believing in God that was all.

-SF

[Neal]

[mell]

Yes, I believe in GOD.

- mell -